Comments on: Harmony for IBM and SAP, Duet for Microsoft and SAP http://www.itcserver.com/blog/2006/05/16/harmony-for-ibm-and-sap-duet-for-microsoft-and-sap/ The SAP Consultant's Journey Wed, 07 Jan 2009 01:45:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Tuncay Karaca http://www.itcserver.com/blog/2006/05/16/harmony-for-ibm-and-sap-duet-for-microsoft-and-sap/#comment-134 Tuncay Karaca Sun, 04 Jun 2006 18:25:38 +0000 http://www.itcserver.com/blog/2006/05/16/harmony-for-ibm-and-sap-duet-for-microsoft-and-sap/#comment-134 Rock, I watched <a href="http://www.sap.com/community/pub/events/2006_05_SAPPHIRE_US/index.epx" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">SAPPHIRE ’06</a> which is SAP’s customer conference that was held in Orlando on May 16-18, and I see that a lot of news and sessions about Duet. Even all keynote speakers mentioned Duet. But I did not hear anything about NaSS. If those are new products, where was IBM? I think IBM’s those products are not new products. I am not sure but what I know is IBM developed those products alone. I think <strong>BAPI</strong> and <strong>Batch Input</strong> techniques are used to export/import data from SAP R/3. So it makes them are normal integration programs. I remember when I was in <strong>IBIMSA</strong>, joint venture of IBM Turkey and Sabanci Holding, my friend Murat Yasin Kubilay and me did the same kind of integration. The key question is: Is there a server to manage all integration activities between SAP and IBM Lotus Notes? Recent news about those products is just respond to SAP-Microsoft’s Duet. It is a kind of saying that hey everyone you see Duet right now but we have already did before with Lotus Notes. This is not a new concept. (Maybe not but if we look closely, we can see different things.) Rock maybe you don’t know the answer but I am still wondering who gave names to these products  :) Have people thought those are really products or just instant solutions? Rock,

I watched SAPPHIRE ’06 which is SAP’s customer conference that was held in Orlando on May 16-18, and I see that a lot of news and sessions about Duet. Even all keynote speakers mentioned Duet. But I did not hear anything about NaSS. If those are new products, where was IBM?

I think IBM’s those products are not new products. I am not sure but what I know is IBM developed those products alone. I think BAPI and Batch Input techniques are used to export/import data from SAP R/3. So it makes them are normal integration programs. I remember when I was in IBIMSA, joint venture of IBM Turkey and Sabanci Holding, my friend Murat Yasin Kubilay and me did the same kind of integration. The key question is: Is there a server to manage all integration activities between SAP and IBM Lotus Notes?

Recent news about those products is just respond to SAP-Microsoft’s Duet. It is a kind of saying that hey everyone you see Duet right now but we have already did before with Lotus Notes. This is not a new concept. (Maybe not but if we look closely, we can see different things.)

Rock maybe you don’t know the answer but I am still wondering who gave names to these products  :) Have people thought those are really products or just instant solutions?

]]> By: Tuncay Karaca http://www.itcserver.com/blog/2006/05/16/harmony-for-ibm-and-sap-duet-for-microsoft-and-sap/#comment-132 Tuncay Karaca Sun, 04 Jun 2006 16:58:52 +0000 http://www.itcserver.com/blog/2006/05/16/harmony-for-ibm-and-sap-duet-for-microsoft-and-sap/#comment-132 Sangeeta, I read you “<strong>The Battle for The Connected Desktop</strong>” article. I truly like it. I agree with you about SAP and Microsoft did good job so far and Oracle seems too busy to think about SAP and Microsoft relationship. I think SAP and Microsoft have done a good start but it is not enough. Duet needs more functionality and also feedbacks from users are very important. I read different things about Duet’s technology but it is still a “integration”. As a SAP Developer I know integration is kind of work which would bring headache to customers, implementers, and consultants. The strategy is “wait and see”. So far the result :) SAP: 2 – Oracle: 0 Microsoft: 1 – IBM: 0 Sangeeta,

I read you “The Battle for The Connected Desktop” article. I truly like it. I agree with you about SAP and Microsoft did good job so far and Oracle seems too busy to think about SAP and Microsoft relationship. I think SAP and Microsoft have done a good start but it is not enough. Duet needs more functionality and also feedbacks from users are very important. I read different things about Duet’s technology but it is still a “integration”. As a SAP Developer I know integration is kind of work which would bring headache to customers, implementers, and consultants. The strategy is “wait and see”.

So far the result :)

SAP: 2 – Oracle: 0
Microsoft: 1 – IBM: 0

]]> By: Rock http://www.itcserver.com/blog/2006/05/16/harmony-for-ibm-and-sap-duet-for-microsoft-and-sap/#comment-98 Rock Wed, 24 May 2006 05:38:07 +0000 http://www.itcserver.com/blog/2006/05/16/harmony-for-ibm-and-sap-duet-for-microsoft-and-sap/#comment-98 Thanks for the mention, Tuncay. I do want to mention, as a personal aside, that I had nothing to do with the name - only the featureset :) If you have any questions as you perform your evaluation, please let me know. Regards, Rock Thanks for the mention, Tuncay. I do want to mention, as a personal aside, that I had nothing to do with the name - only the featureset :)

If you have any questions as you perform your evaluation, please let me know.

Regards,

Rock

]]> By: Sangeeta Patni http://www.itcserver.com/blog/2006/05/16/harmony-for-ibm-and-sap-duet-for-microsoft-and-sap/#comment-97 Sangeeta Patni Wed, 24 May 2006 04:47:36 +0000 http://www.itcserver.com/blog/2006/05/16/harmony-for-ibm-and-sap-duet-for-microsoft-and-sap/#comment-97 It should certainly be interesting to see how this war pans out. Microsoft has invited SAP into its domain, and IBM who is a smaller player in the desktop application space with Lotus has already reacted. The vendor who should hurt the most by this is Oracle. Read my piece on the battle for the connected desktop here - http://www.extensio.com/white_papers/The%20Battle%20for%20the%20Connected%20Desktop.pdf - Sangeeta It should certainly be interesting to see how this war pans out. Microsoft has invited SAP into its domain, and IBM who is a smaller player in the desktop application space with Lotus has already reacted.

The vendor who should hurt the most by this is Oracle.

Read my piece on the battle for the connected desktop here -
http://www.extensio.com/white_papers/The%20Battle%20for%20the%20Connected%20Desktop.pdf

- Sangeeta

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